yes a bit sleep deprived from staying up in London to watch the first half of the SuperBowl - I went to bed knowing Seattle would win (I was supporting them because my 18 year old son does) . I have been reading Bring out the Bodies by Alice Mantel - about Henry VIII and Anne Boleyn. I have been watching Season 1 of Breaking Bad on DVD (a present from my son for Xmas). I watched France beat England on television on Saturday - great game - England was unlucky - I wasn't unhappy with the result cos I am an Aussie. I went to Chinatown on Friday night for Chinese New Year - great fun and had a wonderful meal. What about everyone else?
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So what are you up to?
by Xanthippe inanyone else bored with religion versus atheism or is it just me?.
i'm planning to go to greece in may.. i'm thinking about planting rocket and beetroot in my garden this year because they are getting rather expensive to buy.. this week i want to make chocolate refridgerator cakes.
some for my daughter who is coming home from uni this weekend and some to take in to work to give away with free tea and coffee because it's national libraries day on saturday.. i just finished reading the humans by matt haig which was brilliant.
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Child intimidated into no sports activities- suggestions please
by 4thgen inmy ex is an active witness.
i've been endeavoring to socialize my child ad best as possible.
he loves sports in school, but has been intimidated by his father that after school activities are evil.
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One thing you might want to do once you have got him to think about this topic si to take him through the Bible Stories Book and get him to try to identify how it presents scary images to get children to be scared and to accept what is written there. I owuld be finding out everything your husband tlaks to him about so you know what he is putting in his head and so you can find ways to counteract it.
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Child intimidated into no sports activities- suggestions please
by 4thgen inmy ex is an active witness.
i've been endeavoring to socialize my child ad best as possible.
he loves sports in school, but has been intimidated by his father that after school activities are evil.
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I think the best thing, as others have pointed out, is to dsit down and talk to your son about his fears and get him to understand that theya re nto real. I fpossible ti woudl be ideal if you could ask yoru son questions to get him to understand how his faither is crippled b oinot inaction by the fears he has been indoctrinated with by the WBTS. Get him to udnerstgand thte difference between real fears - that is things that woudl actually harm you - and phobias which are imagined fears. Do some internet stuudy on phobias. Get him to udnerstand how the WBTS use phobias to manipulate the believers. Fear of Jehovah, fear of Satan and his demons, fear of Armageddon, fear of leaving the organisation, fear of questioning the organisation, fear of apostates, fear of churches and organised religion. Ask him whether the thing that is feared is real or imagined - if he says real, ask him what is the evidence that they are real? Get him to reconginse that just because his Dad is scard fo it does nto mean it is a real thing to be feared.
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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 02-02-2014 WT Study (GREAT SHEPHERDS)
by blondie inhttp://marvinshilmer.blogspot.com.
http://exjehovahswitnessforum.yuku.com.
http://www.jehovahswitnessrecovery.com/.
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This WT study is a brilliant way to get the R&F to accept bullying by the elders: 'Rather than trying to force his associates in the congregation to act in a certain way, a good spiritual shepherd thinks in terms of appealing to their heart.' = lay a huge guilt trip to ensure compliance...
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ugh...now I'm getting mad
by Angus Beef inventing.... hubby visited with sil (with gotee intact), got the wt don't approve speech and the 'we've been missing you at the meetings".. he gave all the excuses he could for why we weren't there.
i'm at the point of just telling them the truth as why... but we will be giving up our grandchildren.
i just don't know if i can do it, give up the grandkids.
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I agree - Goatees rock - I grew mine back when I learnt it was a WBTS no-no (I had shaved it off after the missus complained that it irritated her skin - I subsequently realised this was not actually the case and that the real reason for her complaints were WBTS conditioning) and continue to ignore constant complaints about it. It was good enough for her when she met me so it should still be good enough. If her skin shows signs of irritation then I will shave it off - but that is not the case and I am careful when I kiss her so as not to give her cause.
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interview with an apostate: BIGMAC
by bigmac intell us a little about yourself and your family.. .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren.
were you a born in or a convert?.
.not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother.
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I am happy to get involved in a campagin to seek to get the WBTS's charitable stauts revoked.
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interview with an apostate: BIGMAC
by bigmac intell us a little about yourself and your family.. .i'm 65---divorced--3 grown up kids--7 ish grandchildren.
were you a born in or a convert?.
.not born in--dragged into it----aged 9--- by my late mother.
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Serial philandering - well done mate - heartbreaking to hear you have grandkids living 4 miles away you have never seen and don't know the names of - and the UK government treats the WBTS as a Charity? How f##ked up is that?
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Interview with an apostate. Punkofnice AKA Paul Jackson
by punkofnice intell us a little about yourself and your family.. i got married to another cult member and we have 3 children who are all grown up now.
the 2 boys are not interested in the jw cult (thank goodness).
when i left the disgusting cult my wife left me.. were you a born in or a convert?.
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Very interesting Paul - I have nothing but admiration for all you born-ins who were able to see through the BS and make the brave decision to exit but feel sad for the trail of wreckage left by the WBTS in your lives. Sad but not surprised (given the handicap imposed on you by the WBTS) to hear you are struggling financially and sad to hear yoru daughter is still enslaved but happy hear you are in a good relationship and your boys had the good sense to also see through the BS. Cheers
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I want to send a follow-up question to my sister who has recently cut me off
by Faithful Witness inrecently, i received this email from my jw sister: .
while i appreciate the thought, please do not send us gifts.. our kids are not missing out on anything other than things we try to protect them from.. at this time, based on prior encounters and their affect on me emotionally, i think it would be best if we didn't communicate.. i hope you can understand my decision and the fact that it is not meant to offend anyone.. .
i sent her a loving and forgiving message, and know she has no intention of answering me.
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Faithful Witness - I feel for you. it is difficult when you know little about the cult and then all of a sudden you have a family member deeply embedded in it and unhappily for you now molst of your family. Luckily you were never baptized so you have not been df'd so your sister should not technically be shunning you unless she can classify you as an opposer. So the trick is not to give her cause to do that. The downside is that yo have to play by her rules to some extent which is terribly frustrating as it is so obviously wrong but to maintain a relationship you have to remain silent about the many flaws in WBTS dogma. The good news is that as a convert there are better prospects she will wake up to TTATT than if she was a born-in. Showing her love and being her sister and not confronting her will give you better prospects that she will confide in you if she starts to have doubts or that you can gently ask her questions to start her thinking. The fact that you were labelled 'bad studies' may not help but you can manage this by saying 'it is not right for me but I can see you aree convinced by it and so in the interests of maintining our relationship I will respect that.' or something to that effect. But once you say something like that yo hae to live by it which will be incredibly hard so make sure you are prepared to live by it.
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Suicide - How many do you know within the JWs
by Lady Lee inthw wts likes to play games with their statistics.
one interesting but truly tragic is the number of jwhovah's witnesses who commit suicie.. now i suspect that if a person commits suicide shortly before or after they are disfellowshipped then the elders would say that person wasn't a witness or that they had done something so terrible that they were too guilty to admit it and by their action of committing suicide they pretty much declared they were no longer a jw.. yup fancy talk to make sure any crap didn't fall on them.. so my question.. do you know of cases like this?
if so then can you answer a few more questions.. had this person been dfed or in real danger of being dfed or whatever the equivalent is if they were never baptized?.
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my sister-in-law - bullied by the elders into returning to an abusive JW husband and felt she had no where to go